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Saturday, August 14, 2010

The Big Picture for the Week of August 15, 2010

At the start of the show Power Lunch yesterday Sue Herrera rhetorically asked "are we lost" as a tease for a discussion to be had later in the show (that I missed). She also noted something along the lines of many headlines expressing concern that we could be in for a lost decade. This discussion is always worth having.

To understand what a lost decade might look like we have to go all the way back to the 2000s. On a price basis the S&P 500 was down 24% during the last decade and the ride to that loss was very bumpy. So whether or not this decade is a lost one we all have fresh experience with the outcome.

Before we knew the last decade was going to be lost I did a lot of writing about the need for foreign investing taking up an increasing portion of every US based investor's portfolio. The idea was about the US becoming a less attractive destination not a prediction of the financial crisis. Back in 2004 I think we were around 30% foreign and now we are close to 40% I'd say, in line with getting to 50% within the first couple of years of this decade which I've been talking about for quite a while as well. I would also note we are doing a lot more with foreign fixed income now than we were doing in 2004 when this site started.

The chart captures the ordinary shares (on their local markets) of Cementos Lima (ADR symbol CEMTY) which is the big cement company of Peru and a new one to me compared to the ordinary shares of Cementos Argos (ADR symbol CMTOY) from Colombia and the SPDR S&P 500 ETF (SPY). CMTOY is the one that is up 150%, CEMTY is up 40% and the brown line is SPY.

The chart is from the Businessweek site and the only one I know that charts these markets, the ADRs don't trade enough to make a useful chart. I've been interested in Peru, although haven't done much for clients with it, for quite a while and have not really had much interest in Colombia which is too bad given how well it has done.

Both countries have attributes that I have written about many times before that make them interesting and good candidates for offering diversification to US based investors. Specifically they are not service based economies, have stuff that the world needs and because of this are becoming more globally relevant than they used to be.

Quite frankly, assessing these attributes is simple. As much as I'd like to be one of the great thinkers, I am not, this stuff is very easy to assess for anyone willing and able to spend the time. There is more work involved in the next step of selecting which countries to include and then the best way in to the countries selected but the first step is easy.

The second step should be a process of understanding more detail of what makes the country tick, the current economic stats and where those stats might head over the next six months, 18 months and further out to any time period you are concerned about. Of course this stuff then needs to be followed as well.

As far as picking the best way to access a country, that depends on how you construct your portfolio. At this point we are obviously willing to invest at the country level and there are ETFs for the above countries; GlobalX Interbolsa FTSE Colombia 20 ETF (GXG) and the iShares Peru ETF (EPU) which a couple of clients own. In picking a stock I want what I think is the best proxy for the country while at the same time fitting in with the rest of the portfolio. I'm not sure that cement stocks are a proxy for either country they are just examples but CMTOY has a pretty large weight in GXG but CEMTY is pretty small in EPU. CMTOY stayed with GXG for a while before falling off some starting in May and CEMTY has tracked EPU very closely except for a couple of months in late 2009 where the stock dramatically outperformed the ETF.

In my opinion there were two ways people avoided a lost decade during the oughts; they either traded successfully or invested in foreign markets but avoided Western Europe and Japan in doing so; avoiding financials probably helped too. I'd say country picking is the easier of two and as I have been saying for months now success during this decade will also require country picking.

To the extent this is true there are ever more ETFs available like the ones mentioned above but I would encourage anyone who is not now comfortable with picking individual stocks to also take the time to learn (more) about stock selection. ETFs are very useful of course but by throwing a few stocks into the mix you have a chance of increasing the yield of the entire portfolio.

On an unrelated note for as many times as I've mentioned my 79 year old neighbor who supplements his income with backhoe work I thought I should post a picture (while still keeping him anonymous) so you'd know he's real. He wasn't going to come work on our driveway until Monday but made time yesterday. As I have rhetorically asked before, in referring to him, how many hours at $60 per would it take you to relieve some of the burden off of your portfolio?

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Roger--I certainly agree with the need for more foreign, as well as a healthy slug of less volatile income generators.

If your goal is 50% foreign, could I ask why you don't just go there now? What holds you back from moving more quickly (granting that 40% is no small stake already)?

Thanks for this perspective.

Anonymous said...

I hope I understand correctly that you are just making an example, but since you keep coming back to the "backhoe" scenario...

Average prices for a 14' to 15' backhoe are around $70,000. 15' to 16' models go for around $84,000, and those over 16' can be $110,000 or more. These are new price - used is cheaper.

Then you need to buy a truck and trailer to haul it around.

Get licensed, bonded, insured.

Maintenance + what happens when the transmission goes? Can you fix it yourself? Tires?

Does anyone know how to drive/use a backhoe?

Just in case anyone is thinking of taking your example literally...

Roger Nusbaum said...

great question. before 2007 this was a slow moving ship IMO. the last couple of years i ended up selling a couple of foreign banks (BCS in Dec 07 and AIB in April 08) and given the defensive bias have not been aggressive with adding more back in. I added two foreigns back in to sort of replace them and did a foreign telecom swap as well along the way. I have always thought of this as a multi year process.

Roger Nusbaum said...

re the backhoe this is my neighbor's thing that he loves doing. he has had this since before I met him in 1998 and however old this backhoe is he had one before this one.

the point of any reference to him is doing what you love to do and figuring a way to monetize it not doing what someone else loves to do.

Purewater said...

"In my opinion there were two ways people avoided a lost decade during the oughts; they either traded successfully or invested in foreign markets but avoided Western Europe and Japan in doing so; avoiding financials probably helped too."

Permanent Portfolio worked pretty well too :)

Roger Nusbaum said...

that is a good point

Anonymous said...

It is so hard to understand the risks in in the US much less in foreign markets so I stick with mutual funds to worry about FX, soverign, industry, company, etc. risks...also prefer to have foreign in my taxable accounts in order to use the FTC and avoid a double dip by the US. The term foreign is somewhat hard to understand as most large companies are by their nature international irrespecitive of the market they trade on or their home country...

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