There is TV coverage and internet content dissecting every aspect of this as it certainly newsworthy and has a chance to be historic as the Iceland collapse was historic (don't take that as an attempt to predict magnitude).
One idea that I've written about countless times in the last two years has been the idea of one more shoe to drop. If this was truly the worst financial crisis in 80 years then there surely must be more fallout. Perhaps the focus moving to European and UK sovereigns is the next phase, it certainly seems like it.I have been saying all along there would be reverberations and after this one there could very well be another.
The portfolio approach here should not, IMO, be figuring out which US bank does better than the others or how to pick from the various European countries to best weather the storm on the continent.
All of these current events started unfolding long before prices started imploding-- the collapse, or whatever this is, has been a very slow moving ship that, like many scary events, gave plenty of warning ahead of time. Long time readers may recall that I have simply avoided/been extremely underweight the financial sector and Europe long before the crisis.
We occasionally have discussions on this site about stock picking, sector picking and country picking. A point I try to drive home that I think gets missed is the equally important stock avoidance, sector avoidance and country avoidance. The folks who think along the lines of the Bogleheads think this sort of thing cannot be done reliably. It doesn't take a whole lot of reading and understanding of basic economics before you realize that a country might be in trouble and should be avoided. Or put in Hussmanian terms; where the risk reward ratio indicates returns are likely to be poor.
With a nod to the Bogleheads I think picking the one bank stock that won't get crushed or the best way to weather the storm in Europe are both very difficult to do. One way to think of top down management is that it involves ruling things out and looking through what is left to build a portfolio. If your portfolio today underweight the hotspots of the banks and the most troubled countries you have a decent shot of reducing your drawdown should things deteriorate from here.
Along those lines we recently added short term sovereign debt from Denmark. The country is obviously not part of the EU and while it is not riskless it does not have the magnitude of trouble that so many countries do.





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I think you are wrong, the euro will go the way of the dodo bird. That was the prediction of Milton Friedman also. There are vast differences between European countries. I think the EU can stay together, but trying to keep one currency is foolish.
Roger,
as bullishness spread in mid junary my writing in this blog was that perhaps we have reached the top and now ready to go down. I did not know what was going to happen, but the numbers and my excel programs in place was telling me that perhaps this is it. On jan 21, 2010 I sayed that S&P could go down to 703. Now with with a full blown financial hurrican it is smart to get a list of companies that one wants and the related prices and one can then buy cheep. This weekend I will study where we could be going on the S&P. I am 98% cash. For those that are fully invested well you must make some smart thinking and take some action in rebalancing, it is not the end of the world.
Best,
Jeff from Milan, Italy
Hey Roger--If European countries began to revert back to their former currencies, what effect would that have on etfs that track the euro? Would they have to be reconstituted somehow? Would it take a complete elimination of the euro for those etfs to go belly up?
Thank you for your perspective.
that would depend on what the prospectus says but to be clear no euro ETF would go to zero upon a break up of the EMU. if the fund did not pay out the NAV it would carry on as a basket whose value would add up to something close to the euro.
ETFs do not go to zero when they close--there have been enough closures by to know that this should be common knowledge.
very good point Roger on avoidance. you don't have to be a great stock-picker or great sector or country timer. just figuring out which parts of your portfolio contribute the most to risk -- and then decide if that is consistent with your estimate of reward or not. if you own risky things and that is where you expect the return, then that is consistent. if you need safety and preservation of capital for your retirement -- then don't own the most volatile, riskiest things --- boglehead or not.
assets are clearly moving to 'active indexing' because active indexing does a better job on the risk side. Passive investing can leave you wide open on the risk exposure side.
The EU unification of currency was not matched by unification of labor/mobility regulation so when more money flowed into Spain, labor costs went up.
The usual way for countries to deal with this would be for currency to appreciate as flows increase and then, when flows reverse, either let the currency depreciate or let labor leave or both.
Spain can't do any of that. End of story.
Jim Jubak's blog has an interesting read today on building a global portfolio (taking a lead from Roger?) He likes Poland but doesn't mention PLND.
Jubak is a stock picker, not an indexer.
You know, Jubak is, well, Jubak but it's an interesting idea. create a long term portfolio based, on, say, Grantham's expected 10 year returns or something.
Roger, this is off topic...
but I just noticed that on
the Fidelity site you can
now trade 25 ETFs for FREE.
I haven't read all the details
but thought some of you here
would be interested.
No, I don't work for FIDO.
active indexing = oxymoron
Hello ROger:
Sorry if asked before, which it probably was...200 day EMA or 200 day SMA?? Why one over the other?
Many thanks, L.D.
Hey Roger,
This has been driving me crazy. On your homepage below the heading "Random Roger" in green and the three lines that follow, there is a grey box with an advertisement. In the upper left corner of the border that surrounds the box, there is a black dot with a squiggly line that runs to the upper right until the it reaches the white background, kind of looks like a little crack. WHAT THE HECK IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE?
sma, ema I don't think that is the thing. the thing is an objective trigger point for protection. the reason I dont think the diff is the thing is that neither can always be the best--neither can always be the worst. if the market were to drop 50% again and defense works then i don;t think it matters whether your drop was 20% or 23%-- you missed the full brunt of down a lot which is what matters.
i don't know what that is in the upper corner. i did not create the layout, Investing Channel, the company that handles my advertising found the template and installed it for me (w/my approval) I liked it so we went with it.
Roger,
Of course you are right about just having an objective trigger point to turn cautious, but your use of the 200 sma means you get out later and take a somewhat greater loss. It also means you get less chance of being whipsawed, which is better than getting out a little sooner IMO.
Not that it affects the contents or anything, but that black dot is kind of like a hairy mole on the nose of an beautiful woman. I guess I'm shallow.
"that black dot is kind of like a hairy mole on the nose of an beautiful woman"
ha, now that's funny. Not that it matters but I've never been a fan of the change. The page takes longer to load. It only shows the first couple paragraphs of each post. There are so many other blogger templates that look much better. just my 2 cents
Roger,
Please tell us the firm you work for. (A website link would be nice.)
Thanks.
re "active indexing is an oxymoror"
uhh, you might want to educate yourself. customizing portfolios to individual clients risk levels -- be it from the inability to take risk or simply an unwillingness by the client to take risk --- are the most basic forms of 'active indexing'
Anon 3:01,
Your Source Financial
I thought that the black squiggly thing was supposed to be like a string on a garment tag...
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