The poll question from the video drew some interesting responses and questions that I'll try to answer here.RW has been shooting the lights out with some good short sales, congrats. As far as his question about call writing funds that own foreign stocks; I am aware of two a Blackrock fund with ticker BOE that I own personally and for clients and an ING fund with ticker IGD. I would also suggest checking with Eaton Vance; it seems to me that they have one but I am not sure.
There were a couple comments surrounding the YTD number for the S&P 500. It closed 2006 at 1418.30. It closed Friday at 1479.37. That is a gain of 4.305%. Next add 88 basis points for two dividends (ETFConnect has the yield for SPY at 1.77% and it works out to 5.185%. As for VFINX, the Vanguard fund, I have no idea how closely it tracks the index.
One reader asked what it would take for me to become more sanguine on the markets given the lift. Well lets not forget I might get this wrong but thanks to the snapback noted by some readers in emerging, commodities and a couple of foreign names my having added to my double short fund the day of the discount window cut is not holding me back. It might start to when the snapback effect peters out. As far as being sanguine it just doesn't add up to me that the events that unfolded won't create another down leg of some sort.
I added some double short last summer with bad timing, the market went up a ton and I lagged that up move slightly. I said going into that trade I would be thrilled to lag a huge move up and the same holds true now. If from the low we go up 25% before doing anything else and I lag by 3-4%, that would be a fine outcome. Market up 20 plus percent and you are close either way, you are doing just fine.
As for the discount brokerage question. We use Schwab but I have my HSA at Options Express because Schwab doesn't have an HSA yet. The commissions are in the $15s which is not competitive but everything else about my experience with them has been superior to Schwab by a mile.
The other comments about performance were very useful and it seems as though my thought was unreasonable so apologies for being insensitive. Hopefully I can offer a couple of constrictive nuggets toward these comments.
A lot of the results that were lagging one way or another had some recurring points. People love the closed end funds. I say the same thing about them over and over; moderation. The slapping these funds have taken is far from unprecedented and they will get slapped again during the next financial panic. They do snap back in varying magnitudes but they create volatility when you least want it. Selling during the snapback is probably not a great idea but if you learned you have too much invested I would say to lighten up when things normalize. My weighting is modest and is for areas that are not otherwise easily investible with other products.
One reader ran into problems with stop orders. I have written essentially the same thing about stop orders many times in the past. Stocks go down at different times for different reasons. In that context using the same type of stop order for all times makes no sense to me. And as the reader notes, when do you get back in? Someone is going sell at the bottom tick for every stock. It might be you on your stop order. That will happen every so often and that is OK but if you got stopped out on enough of your holdings at down 8% a couple of weeks ago that it dramatically changed your allocation and you didn't get back in two days later when it took back the 8% figure, well what then?
Mind you, I am not saying I would have jumped in two days later but this all points out that a lot of sales in a fast decline (you gotta be sick of me writing this by now) is a bad idea.
BillB, I said the comment from anonymous was harsh in the context of how defeated the person seemed to be in the comment not that he was picking on you, sorry for the poor choice of words.
Is 72% in fixed income recession proof? Is it mutual funds or actual bonds? Rates are very, very low. Depending on your average maturity you will get crushed if rates normalize and you don;t make changes ahead of time. As a rule of thumb for intermediate maturities; a 1% lift in rates will correspond to an 8% decline in price. Could a ten year treasury, which yields 4.63% today yield 6.13% a year from now if we cycle through a recession and start the next expansion? If so you are down 12%, assuming you go further out than t-bills. That much in bonds has quite a few vulnerabilities, you need learn what they are and hopefully your broker knows the answer.
I will conclude with a reminder of sorts. Constructing a diversified portfolio that does not require a lot of trading (based on the comments I do not think the audience has a lot of day traders) does not have to be complicated. Some exposure to all the big S&P 500 sectors along with some foreign exposure and the realization that not everything will go up at once is a great starting point. Keep the products simple and don't make big bets on anything. These are things you already know how to do.
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Thanks again for addressing us, Roger. I really enjoy all of the comments because I gain insight into other styles. I feel like I'm on a constant quest to discover or maybe rather refine my style. It has taken many years to get comfortable (and I feel that I am finally comfortable), but always looking for ways to improve. Thanks to all for the contributions.
I'm also surprised that no one has mentioned Zecco (or maybe they did and I missed it). I've a few brokerage accounts, but opened a Zecco account a few months back. It has $0 commission on equities for up to 40 trades per month. I use it for longer term holdings that I ease into (since cost becomes no concern now). They support the standard order types. For fancier trades and option spreads, I still use and recommend Interactive Brokers.
I did a review of Zecco last month after using it for a little while. I've discovered a few glitches, but nothing critical. I'm still a happy customer.
Mid Morning Latte:-)
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http://www.institutionaladvisors.com/pdf/070816_HOYE-PIVOTAL_EVENTS.pdf
Thank you from me as well, Roger. Your commonsense guidance is reassuring at times like this.
My account is self-directed, and I suffer badly from style drift. My results are generally ok, but everytime I read something new and well-reasoned, I adjust my holdings. I need to keep reminding myself that I'm investing, not trading.
That said, even the investing gurus offer quite contradictory advice--some are buy-and-hold, diversified portfolio types, while others advocate using timing signals to reduce volatility and improve returns. In either case, returns are usually within a percent or two of the SPY, but with less volatility and drawdown. Over time, those differences are meaningful though.
Nobody's testing seems to go much beyond style boxes to include some of the newer tools (country funds, option-writing funds, short funds, etc.) I guess that's because, by definition, they're new and untested in the real world, though the WisdomTree and PowerShares funds have seductive backtested performance.
In the meantime, your lectures on moderation will continue to resonate.
I like the mid-morning latte.
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One was to Jim Sinclair and the other was to Bob Hoye.
To be clear I am not familiar with either person but I will check out the articles. Thank you.
8:25,
thanks for the kind word. as far as gurus contradicting each other, we could find at least one study that would validate every method of investing/trading to be the best. Obviously not every one can be the best but the studies... and the people who write the studies make compelling arguments so taking a lot from the experts becomes problematic.
In this regard I tend to say that you should take little bits from many sources and create your own style.
I have to say believe I have written a ton of stuff about call writing funds, country funds etc over the last three years.
The reason I do write about these things is to help me learn about then and create awareness for others.
Thanks for the tip Roger: I found two funds at Eaton Vance, one of which (ETW) bills itself as a tax-managed global buy-write fund; interesting.
I haven't found an international fund that uses call writing as a fundamental strategy yet but will keep looking as I would like to create a more comprehensive list for comparison purposes.
Striving to develop your own style is a great exercise in its own right; it may not be the 'best' style even for yourself at any given time but if your process involves a means of improvement and a discipline that prevents you from constantly second-guessing yourself then you're more than halfway there regardless IMO.
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Thanks Roger....testing
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RW, have you looked at EBI. Nice dividend per ETFConnect and currently selling at a discount. Follow the link to the fund sponsor's site and go to EBI; the literature mentions that it writes call options on international indexes.
aReally good blog entries his weekend, Roger.
To date this year my investment portfolios are up almost 19%, including dividends, not including rental income. I guess I should feel pretty good. And lucky.
I am neither a trader or a speculator.
Investing in areas other than stocks and bonds have provided me with a excellent balance over many years. Rental real estate (commercial and residential), providing my family with a quality education and a lifelong work ethic, and using the tax code for maximum benefit has done just as much, if not more, than parsing securities to make a few pennies more.
Thanks again everyone for the online brokerage info.
Thanks Bill for the info on Zecco. Here is an interesting blog on Zecco:
http://www.mymoneyblog.com/archives/2006/10/zecco-feature-review-and-free-trades-details.html
I found out on this blog that BAC has free online trading too.
http://www.bankofamerica.com/investing/index.cfm?&statecheck=PA
I gotta say that if I have to choose between a new company named Zecco (named after the owner) or Bank of America, I'll take the 10 less free trades a month at BAC. You need a 25K balance in BAC though as opposed to only 2,500 in Zecco to open an account.
Models this week:
Timing Model=0.0
50% long, 50% cash
Global Allocation of long positions
MSCI EAFE Index 30%
MCCI Emerging Markets Index 30%
Russell 3000 Index - U.S. 40%
Top U.S. Sectors
U.S. Oil Equipment, Services & Distribution 5.0
U.S. Telecommunications 5.0
U.S. Technology 5.0
U.S. Oil & Gas 4.0
U.S. Semiconductor 4.0
U.S. Industrials 3.5
Top Intl ETFs
FTSE/Xinhua China 25 Index Fund 3
MSCI South Korea Index Fund 3
S&P Latin America 40 Index Fund 3
MSCI Brazil Index Fund 3
MSCI Taiwan Index Fund 3
MSCI Emerging Markets Index Fund 3
MSCI Germany Index Fund 2
MSCI Pacific ex-Japan Index Fund 2
MSCI Singapore Index Fund 2
MSCI Hong Kong Index Fund 2
My timing model is in perfect equilibrium: All four trend indicators are bearish, all four sentiment models are full out bullish. Hopefully the 5dma won't whipsaw through the 200dma too many times over the coming weeks.
Also, we're getting close to a performance parity between the U.S, EAFE, and Emerging Markets. In the U.S., Growth is decidedly the outperforming style.
Roger, I cannot understand (and I listened twice) a part of your video this week.
What were the proprietary charts and info that someone sent you about sentiment indicating? The part about the shorter moving average over the longer?
I am more than ignorant when it comes to technical analysis--I need to be spoon fed what the charts were indicating. Was it that the short term trend is up, or down, or what?
Thanks in advance, Sharon
shorter(fast) moving average, like a 10 day, crossing over a longer (slow) moving average tends to be an indication for the short term. If the 10 day crosses the 20 day going up it is view as bullish, going down is bearish. obviously it is not infallible but has some history behind it.
The charts were oscillators of 4 different sentiment models. There are many ways to interpret these charts, but generally it's a bullish sign if the model/indicator is rising from a lower extreme and bearish when it's falling from an upper extreme.
If you're interested, sign up for a a free trial on Goefert's site: www.sentimentrader.com. I've been a subscriber for a few years and his sentiment work is on par with what I've seen from Ned Davis Research - which would cost you north of $20,000 a year (trust me, I called NDR once).
Full disclosure: I have absolutely zero financial interest in sentimentrader.com.
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